A Gypsy wedding is a celebration of love, unity, and community, deeply rooted in the cultural traditions of various minority ethnic groups across Europe. These weddings are known for their colorful decorations, colorful attire, and vibrant celebrations. The tradition of Gypsy marriage is rich in cultural significance and unique customs, such as draping the bride with ribbons filled with gold coins, believed to bring wealth, prosperity, and luck to the happy couple.
The father of the groom often brings a bottle of brandy or a plotchka, draped with strings of gold. Gypsy women are supposed to do all the household work, including raising children, cooking, cleaning, and other household tasks. Dreaming of a gypsy is insinuated by the proximity of a premonition or news that allows one to take their life without restrictions.
Gypsy setting is typically used for accent diamonds or smaller stones set into wedding rings, but it is not common practice to set center diamonds for engagement rings in this style. The term “gypsy” is seen as a slur, created because people erroneously thought the Romani people were descendants of ancient Egyptians and were racially magical.
The series “My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding” claims to revolve around the marriage customs of Romani-Americans (Gypsies), allegedly members of Romanichal clans, although some are actually of Irish descent. Traditional Gypsy weddings may include a horse and cart in the wedding procession, often decorated with flowers.
In modern Gypsy weddings, the tradition is carried on by draping the bride with ribbons filled with gold coins, believed to bring wealth, prosperity, and luck to the happy couple.
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What is the meaning of gypsy wedding?
Parents arrange marriages. The groom’s parents usually make the first move. Many couples marry in their teens. Young men and women aren’t allowed to socialize alone because of the value placed on female chastity.
Home. Young marrieds live with the husband’s parents. The bride is called bori, which means “one who has acquired a husband.” The bori does most housework, giving up other activities for a while. Couples usually have three or four children. You must live with your in-laws for at least a year before having a child. This is made worse by a lack of housing in cities. In rural and nomadic groups, extended families may live together. Drovers and herdsmen travel together on seasonal cattle drives, while women stay home. Men are served by women in the home. Women may be considered unclean (marime). In the past, a woman had to be careful not to brush the man with her skirts, which could pollute him. This was also a way for women to get revenge on men. This could lead to him being ostracized for up to a year. Men make many family decisions, but women are respected for their skill at providing for the family. Women aren’t always silent because of physical deference and separation of the sexes.
What is the gypsy virginity tradition?
We’ve been visiting different cultures, so you know more about wedding traditions around the world. If you want to theme your wedding based on a culture, you can. This week, we’re learning about gypsies. Gypsy weddings are colorful, fun, and full of celebration. Let’s learn more about them. If the bride is not a virgin, she cannot get married. To test if the bride is a virgin, she must pass the “test of the handkerchief.” This involves getting the bride into a private room and extracting blood from her hymen. The ajuntaora uses a handkerchief and three roses to prove the girl is a virgin. Otherwise, she cannot get married. Once they pass the test, the wedding begins. Guests will break their shirts to show joy. The couple is carried over shoulders and everyone throws almonds while singing. The bride wears two dresses. One is pink, representing femininity, and the other is white, representing purity. The dress must be new and bought by the bride’s father. The groom wears a suit. Most gypsies are Christian, but some are married by the Roma rite or by the Catholic or evangelistic church. The bridesmaid and best man are usually the same person as the godparents. The pastor invites an elderly man to say prayers for the couple. Gypsy weddings last several days and include a big feast. This can vary by region. The gypsy wedding ceremony is full of hymns or spiritual songs played by guitars and other instruments. Everyone sings together, like in a chorus. They are sung in groups, not individually. They have a chorus that is directed by a director.
What does a gypsy girl mean?
A member of an ethnic group originally from Asia who traditionally travel around and live in caravans. Some people prefer to be called Roma or Romani. An old gypsy woman told my fortune. Gypsies are a people found in many countries. Gypsies are called “Egyptians” because they used to be thought to have come from Egypt. Some people think they came from India. In the US, Gypsies are called Roma, and in Britain, they are known as Romanies or travellers. The word “travellers” is more often used for Irish travellers, a group in Britain who, like Gypsies, do not live in settled communities but travel from place to place living in caravans. Gypsies speak Romani, which they make up from Romani elements rather than borrowing from English. They are proud of their identity. In Britain, they are sometimes treated badly by the rest of the population and are often forced to move on from places where they stop. Gypsies usually make money by selling goods. Some collect and sell scrap metal, while others work on farms. Some make a living from entertainment and singing. In the past, women sold clothes pegs, lucky white heather, and bunches of flowers. Many meet each year at the Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria. Americans think of the Roma as mysterious people who wear bright clothes and gold jewelry and have unusual powers. The Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary app lets you look up any word in the dictionary offline, anytime, anywhere.
Word Origin: mid 16th cent.: originally Egyptian (believed to have come from Egypt).
Can a gypsy man marry a non-gypsy woman?
Gypsies marry within their tribe. If a Gypsy man marries a non-Gypsy woman, his community may accept her if she lives like a Gypsy. But it is worse for a Gypsy woman to marry a non-Gypsy man because Gypsy women are the ones who keep the population alive. The first step in thinking about marriage is choosing a bride. The boy asks the girl out, and when they agree to marry, they become engaged and exchange gifts. Gypsy tradition keeps the bride price. This is money paid by the groom’s family to the bride’s family. It makes up for losing a daughter and ensures she will be treated well.
Why are they called Gypsy?
The Roma (Gypsies) are an ethnic group from northern India. They entered Europe between the eighth and tenth centuries. Europeans called them Gypsies because they thought they came from Egypt. This minority is made up of different groups. The Roma (Gypsies) originated in northern India as a nomadic people and entered Europe between the eighth and tenth centuries. They were called Gypsies because Europeans thought they came from Egypt. This minority is made up of tribes or nations. Most of the Roma in Germany and the countries occupied by Germany during World War II belonged to the Sinti and Roma groups. Both groups spoke a language called Romani, based on Sanskrit. The term Roma includes both the Sinti and Roma groups, but some Roma prefer to be called Gypsies. Some Roma are Christian and some are Muslim. They converted during their travels through Persia, Asia Minor, and the Balkans. For centuries, Roma were persecuted across Europe. The German word for Gypsy, Zigeuner, comes from a Greek word meaning untouchable.
Is it normal for Gypsies to marry their cousins?
Romanichal gypsies often marry their first cousins. The wedding started with traditional traveler wedding rituals. A traveler bride from the United States said she left her drunk husband on their wedding day and ran off with her cousin. The wedding started with traditional traveler wedding rituals. A traveler bride from the United States recently revealed how she left her drunk husband on their wedding day and ran off with her cousin. Cearia, 24, from Aberdeen in Maryland, was about to marry her fellow traveler Sam, 28. But when the groom arrived drunk, Cearia didn’t want to marry him and left. The wedding started with the usual traditions. The bride wore an enormous white and gold ball gown.
What exactly is a Gypsy?
Word forms: plural Gypsies. Noun. A Gypsy is a person who travels from place to place, usually in a caravan. Some Gypsies don’t like this name and prefer Romany. A Gypsy is someone who travels from place to place, usually in a caravan. Some Gypsies prefer to be called Romany.
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What is a Gypsy in slang?
Gypsy (plural: Gypsies) (sometimes offensive) Alternative form of Gypsy: a member of the Romani people. (Colloquial) A person who travels from place to place, not necessarily Romani.
English it. Other forms: gipsy, gypsey, gypsie (archaic); gyptian; etymology. See Gypsy. Any person who travels from place to place.
How to say it: IPA: /dʒɪp.si/; /dʒɪp.si/
What is considered a Gypsy?
2. The Gypsy, Roma, and Traveller group. The term “Gypsy, Roma, and Traveller” is used to describe people with nomadic ways of life who are not from a specific ethnicity. In the UK, data collections often distinguish between:
Gypsies (including English, Scottish, Welsh, and other Romany people) ; Irish Travellers (with Irish roots); Roma, from Central and Eastern Europe.
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There is nothing bad or wrong or less to choose to be a stay home spouse, homemaker..whatever you want to call it. As long as it’s your choice and you are happy with it and able as a family to be independent and contributing members of society. Raising children, maintaining a home are all positives..not any less of value than any other job. Sad society thinks it is now and demean those who choose it.
Update: After years of unhappy marriage, Violet divorced the man she gets married to in this episode. Her parents took her back, because they saw how unhappy she’d become. “He seemed to do little more than loaf around on the site. I’d get up at 6am to scrub our trailer, go out to work and then come home to cook. We argued constantly. I’d been brought up to believe that men treated women like princesses but he treated me with no respect. After eight years I was utterly miserable, but I plastered on a smile and tried to pretend I was happy, I couldn’t talk to anyone as gypsies don’t tend to discuss our personal lives. But eventually after another heated argument, I knew I was worth more and had to leave. I did the next day.” She even had a divorce party: “My divorce party felt so good. I was proud of myself for getting out of my marriage.”
As someone who’s from the UK gypsies have a bit of a reputation. As with any group of people some of them are really nice but some will turn up to places get off their faces and start fights. Unfortunately as well a lot of gyspy settlements in the uk are illegal and when they’re made to move on they leave the area full of rubbish and kind of destroy the place which doesn’t help win them any local support.
I was a nurse at a large hospital in the maternity unit. We had a gypsy family come in where they didn’t even have ID. No purse, suitcase etc. When they left they left with three garbage bags of stuff. They took the paper towels from the dispenser, the telephone and the sheets and blanket. The room was stripped of everything that wasn’t hard attached. We had over $1000 of supplies taken from the supply room. It was unbelievable.
I worked in a school for a bit as a teaching assistant in the UK, and there was a boy I worked with who was a Gypsy. His mother had recently left her husband and the community, bringing him with her. He was in Year 8 (12-13), but had the reading and writing level of a 7-year-old. We did a lot to support him in the school, but he was so far behind the other children and we were expected to support him in an ordinary Year 8 class, the whole thing was impossible. He should have had access to special one-on-one attention, and additional English and Maths classes, but the funding just wasn’t there. It’s such a shame as his mother was clearly trying to do the right thing and leave the community and get her son a proper education. I really hope that both of them have done well since I left. He was a nice kid.
I used to work at a hospital (in America) and one of the head gypsies in my area would frequent for health complications and it got so bad that the family other than his wife were not allowed into the hospital. They were caught breaking into other patient rooms looking for valuables. It was such an issue that the hospital staff would be alerted if he was admitted.
I know that a lot of actual Romni people HATE being called Gypsies. At least from personal experience. I have a friend who’s from a Romni family and they distance themselves from “Gypsies” and refer to them as trailer trash and a disgrace. It’s crazy, in all honesty. Edit: So, I’m just gonna put it here but this is just what my friend’s community has told me and what they practice. Obviously there will be differences and some people WILL refer to themselves as what is considered a slur but let’s be real, tons of other groups do the same. I’m not saying that this is 100% the way, there’s a ton of different beliefs out there. I’m simply speaking from my experiences from several Romni communities that have been very vocal about the use of Gypsy and their dislike of it. 🙂
i kind of got these weird chills when flies randomly got stuck in her dress… it was kind of like the universe saying DONT DO IT 🙁 it breaks my heart to see her give up such a great independent life as a woman at her age, many of us strive to have that life such as myself. I pray that she finds happiness in whatever path she chooses, i am not one to judge.
So she’s giving up her job to live the gypsy life…. But he won’t show his face coz being pitted as a gypsy might affect his business… So are they traveling or no? What’s his business? And won’t everyone who has seen the show, know he’s a gypsy as soon as he introduces his wife? Or is she going to be confined to the wagon til death do they part? Is this like consensual abduction?
I hate this stereotypical 50s female role they’ve got going on. I think it’s ridiculous that she had to quit her job. A simple data entry job could be done online that way she could still travel, have a job, earn her own money, and have a little independence. I mean I wish her all the luck in the world but damn did she look unhappy when she got married. That’s not love it’s just security
I remember when I was in secondary school (high school for US), there was a whole community of gypsies living next to the our school field and once during a lesson we watched a man running after a horse from the field into the parking lot. All of the teachers lost their shit running out into the parking lot. Funniest end to a school day ever 🙂
I’m not English but I live here and the attitude towards gypsy/traveller culture was completely new to me but I learned quickly! There are many good reasons why they’re aren’t liked in U.K. They don’t believe that the law applies to them unless it’s something that they benefit from. They don’t believe they should pay taxes or contribute to ‘normal’ society at all and wouldn’t if they could. Even the ones in houses are always disputing having to pay for utilities and council taxes. The true travellers mostly live in caravans and just park themselves off wherever they feel like it, private land or not. And then become a huge nuisance by being rowdy and making a massive mess of wherever they’re living. When it gets too messy, they just pick up and find somewhere else to park. They also put their animals out to pasture wherever they feel like it too, the side of the main roads, wherever. They’re also terrible to their animals especially horses. There are laws here to protect them to some degree but basically they believe they’re not subject to any kind of social rules. But are always complaining about being discriminated against. They also believe they should be entitled to get everything for free. They steal and scam people and believe that’s a legitimate way of making money – it’s the ‘gypsy’ way. Which is why people don’t like to hire them or do business with them. If you rent out a reception hall to them for a wedding or whatever, they will trash it and won’t pay for damages or try skip out on paying all together.
I’m very sorry to say, as a Brit, (to answer your question, Ken), that in the UK the general population doesn’t treat gypsies very well. They face a lot of discrimination, and there’s a stereotype that they steal a lot. Sadly (I hate saying this) I’ve worked jobs where we’ve been robbed blind by gypsy women…there are bad eggs in every community. Sadly because of those bad eggs, the whole community suffers because the gen pop thinks wrongly that they all steal etc. They are supposed to be protected from discrimination as an ethic group but there’s a lot of institutionalised bigotry towards them 😔
It’s a whole culture and I’m not part of it so take what I say with a pinch of salt. I am however from the UK so I can speak a bit on the friction between travelers/gypsies Vs gorgers/not gypsies. There are alot of stereotypes around travelers in UK. The one that most say is that they don’t respect woman. Travellers are often Catholic,less so now. The men work and the woman are homemakers, the daughters are taught how to clean. They have chores and curfews unlike the sons. Travaller men will cheat on their wives with non gypsies but if a wife did that she could be kicked out of their community/family. They often don’t integrate with gorgors. This leads to friction and suspicion between the two different cultures.
When I lived in Texas, we had a Traveller season. During the colder months, we knew they were coming. They weren’t the best group, often fighting or jumping others, in trouble with the law, and always trashing the place. It got so bad that majority of the towns businesses that I worked in refused them service. They would complain but never win since many people weren’t scared of them. One proposed to me once and I was immediately like, “No thanks. I’m good.” Often they flaunt money, the fancy cars (that they ran until they stopped working with no maintenance done), and destroy property. Some were nice. But not all. It was sad really.
Gypsies are a protected group under the Equality Act 2010 in the UK, but still face discrimination. They have a bad reputation from antisocial groups of gypsies who leave household waste and cause public disturbances. I remember a time when it felt like every newspaper was talking about gypsies daily.
So- Gypsies in the UK… I honestly feel like an open person, willing to give anyone a chance- thought the same about gypsies. I’m sure there’s good groups and such out there- but you do hear things. Theres a street where they go through peoples bins and steal bikes etc- they kinda just toss the rubbish out of the bin and into the street with the mentality of ‘it no longer belongs to them because they’ve thrown it out’ Near me there was also a few gypsies that moved into a park. I walked past, they were dancing around and I think I mentioned outloud that it was cool. Sudden silence, everyone turned to stare- I kinda just backed out and the dancing began again. Next day there were police everywhere due to people getting assaulted. I didn’t think I held anything on them, as I was like ‘Probably a small group making things bad’ but I went to a bar that had some gypsies in. Was totally cool with it, went to get a drink- one of them bumped into me and started to do weird hand movements as they spoke- I instantly had a sinking feeling as I spoke and I held my hands over my pockets while I talked. Some of his friends were trying to get behind me as he moved his hand around. I had never been so sure that they were trying to pick my pocket- the guy looked sad for a moment then turned away. I’ve never had every fiber of my being instantly like ‘Protect pockets- stay alert- get away’… it honestly made me wonder if I was imagining it and I was being biased- I want to keep my mind open and accepting but I honestly couldn’t help but have bad feeling instantly.
Her boss isn’t wearing a do-rag, he’s Sikh and has uncut hair as part of his religion (I think uncut hair is called Kesh, which is one of the 5Ks) There are quite a few Sikh people in the UK, especially in the Midlands where it sounds like she’s from, and they make up an important part of the community 🙂
I used to run a carnival, and all of the food and game owners were gypsies. They didn’t mind being called that, they called themselves gypsies. They are wonderful, successful people. Great business people!! I’m still good friends with a few of them even though we haven’t worked together for years ❤️.
I don’t know about the rest of the UK, but where I’m from in Scotland, we used to get gypsies parking their caravans in local beauty spots, or in the grounds of the local castle, they tear up all the grass and make such a mess, I think that’s where the bad rep comes from. The local council ended up putting up barricades and they’ve not been back since. Edit – I’m not saying ALL gypsies are like this, only the ones I’ve seen personally.
Hi gypsy here lol that advice is so wise. I almost got engaged because I was confused and scared of not being able to have a choice in who I marry anymore I wanted to convince myself that I wanted it but I regretted it as soon as I said it. I had no idea who he was and if I wanted to get to know him I wasn’t allowed a social life or go to school anymore. I am so thankful that I said that I didn’t want to marry that guy. I still remember the day my mum told me some guy wants to ask to marry me my heart fell to my stomach it was like I watched my whole life fall apart. I’ve seen what gypsy marriages look like it’s hell (from my experience) and yeah people are cruel to us but I didn’t face any problems like that I’ve only seen my father and my mum get thrown out of shores (rightfully so they would shop lift) I fund it funny that I was surrounded by crime and I’m scared to even throw a paper on the ground or even steal stuff lol dad was a drug dealer mum stole a bunch grandma is scamming people in Poland. Life’s crazy man. (Dating isn’t allowed for women only men can have girlfriends but women have husbands 🤮🔫)
I live near a travellers camp and in primary school we often met the kids from that camp, it was rare for them to stay in school for more than 2 years. In my last year I made friends with one girl and was jealous when I heard they moved around a lot, I asked her where she was going after school and she said she was staying home. Again I was so jealous because she didn’t go to school. Now I understand what she may have been dragged into.
For those interested it appears that Violet Ann finally divorced her husband after about 7 years of her trying to make the marriage work. According to her, her parents could see how miserable she was and let her come back home because they wanted happy Violet back. After her divorce was finalized she threw a divorce party with karaoke, a cake and her altered wedding dress. “As I unpicked the stitches to modify it, I felt as though I was unpicking the misery of my marriage. It was brilliant. And I went back to the same bakery that made my wedding cake – they’d never made a designer divorce cake before.” Tldr: She got divorced, threw a rager, got a job and is happy 😁
FINALLY THE RETURN! I’m getting married in two months and I watch and rewatch your Gipsy wedding articles with my fiancé because we definitely want our wedding to be equal dumpster fire 🔥 Edit: okay I just got to the end of the episode and this wasn’t a dumpster fire, it was just sad 😣 Poor girl, marriage shouldn’t and doesn’t have to be the end of your freedom! Your dreams and independence is important and the right guy will embrace that and help you reach your dreams! I’m graduating from college a month before the wedding, and my future husband is moving with me to Los Angeles so I can pursue my dream job as a screenwriter. I’m so so sorry she had to give up her job and independence!
I am of Gypsy blood, it’s pretty cool to know that about your family. My Granddad was “England’s smallest cyclist” back in the early 1900’s. At three years old he could do some tricks and cracked people up with his winning personality. He was a great man, I’m so glad I was able to spent my first 19 years knowing and loving him. Our family is “normal” nowadays but I will bust out a quick curse if you cross me. It’s a good thing I’m such a good guy. I’ve only done it twice.
Gypsies do have a pretty bad reputation here in the UK. I’ve watched a lot of this show, and in most of the episodes they talk about how they keep the wedding venue secret until the last minute because if the owners find out it’s a gypsy wedding they’ll cancel. Gypsy weddings have a reputation for fighting and property damage here, I think.
This may come across as prejudiced, they are not my prejudices, just an explanation. The reason the Irish traveling community (I’m not talking about Romani) have such a bad reputation in Ireland, at least in rural communities, is because there have been many cases of them setting up camp on private land like farms, then trash the area, take things, don’t dump their sewage responsibly, basically have to get the police involved to get them to move along and leave the cleanup to the landowner. This has happened to my uncle and they essentially prevented him from being able to use one of his fields for his livelihood for weeks until the police got them to go. Obviously this is not all of the community, but enough to build a bad rep over generations. There’s very little done on either front to foster goodwill between general society and them. Also it’s always the trouble makers that make news and perpetuate the stereotype of antisocial behaviour. I went to primary school with a few girls whose families had settled and they were lovely, I was friends with some, not with all, because like with any individual there are personality clicks and clashes
I lived in Italy and saw firsthand the issues with gypsies. I understand the reason why people have a bad view of them. Pickpocketing, squatting, littering, and scams were a common thing we ran into. This was a problem in Paris too. As a Canadian it was shocking, I’ve only seen a police report about a gypsy group that was shoplifting our stores when I worked at Danier leather. They used strollers, booster bags and long skirts to conceal the jackets, they’d cut off the security tags with dog nail clippers and tuck the tags into the pockets of other jackets. That was my first experience with gypsies until I went to Europe. I wanted to believe that the stereotype wasn’t true but sadly it isn’t.
I live in Poland and here the gypsies also have a bad reputation. While working in the store, I was robbed by a gypsy woman and had to return the money to the store from my own pocket. Later, I found out that my friends from the shops nearby, seeing that someone looks or behaves like a gypsy, do not serve him in the store. When I was little, my parents scared me that if I didn’t behave well, the gypsies would come and take me away from them.
I used to work in a restaurant (in Utah. I’ve lived here my whole life and have never seen gypsies) but they would come into the restaurant (which was off the highway) and it was always a rough time. Not only would it be a group upwards of 30, they would be beyond loud, often drunk, and destroy the dining room. I hate stigmatizing people and groups but I have some understanding as to why it happened with gypsies. And why she wouldn’t have wanted her coworkers to have known
There was once a problem with holy water being stolen from the church. The pastor of the church waited to see what would happen, he approached them kindly. Took them outside, blessed a faucet, and told them they were welcome to as much as they pleased. (No they didn’t bottle and sell it). We have to protect our children, but for those who adhere to our laws and abide to the church (many have legitimate businesses) are very different. Now- we do have an excess of psychics and there are elders who with access can do certain “spells” but they are normally only those who are true Gypsy and have married within their culture (not all of them are related). There are occasional financial offers to “gorgers” (I don’t think “we” are referred to as that), to “clean the bloodline”. Most of these are looking for dark haired blue eyed men. Common terms depicting cool or fashionable: Blackest Maggest (most magnificent) Superstar They do perform in front of their houses, and while I was a child they often looked more like toddlers and tiaras, they mostly stick to recognizable high end brands. They live in lavish McMansions, often these are built at a child’s birth, and are completed as she ages. Marriages are generally about being the ideal “merger” with families of equal means. The family usually resides in a trailer nearby to absorb the costs of these tremendous homes. Often sacrificing their own lives for the bloodline
I grew up next to the biggest Irish traveler settlement in the US. I was best friends with a young girl from the community growing up. She was the last one in school with us and I’ll never forget when her parents took her out. She now lives in a huge house with kids and is married to someone she said she didn’t want to marry. They have very strong traditions and reputations that keep them trapped in the system.
8:15 yeah gypsies aren’t treated well in the uk at all, and they’re called travellers because they say ‘gypsy’ is offensive! And as for businesses not wanting them in their establishment, I’d say probably 90% + of UK gypsies I’ve ever met especially the men are extremely aggressive and confrontational toward non gypsies. They also move around from place to place in big travelling groups with all their caravans, break onto privately owned grounds and make camp there illegally, wreck the area, leave bags and bags of rubbish, hunan waste qnd sometimes unwanted pets in the feild when they move on causing the landowner and expensive amount of cleanup! Yeah they don’t have a great rep over here….!
It seems like Ken and buff haven’t seen the classic move Snatch. Or maybe they don’t realize that “pikey” is an even more offensive term for “gypsy” which some also consider a problematic term. Traveler seems to be the PC term…from my years of perusal shows on travelers . I’m not totally sure tho…this is my guess from what I’ve seen.
My heritage is Romani but my family doesn’t follow the practice anymore but they are an extremely marginalized group who were treated similarly to Jewish people throughout history including during the holocaust just no one reallly talks about it the only difference is I will admit Romani people haven’t been the most respectful to the areas they have traveled through throughout history but I thought we were in a time period where the actions of some don’t reflect badly upon all I guess I was wrong for assuming that
I know a LOT about gypsies. I live in the midlands of South Carolina. Search Murphy village. If you want to ask some questions, I can provide a lot of information about the Irish traveler community in our area. I attended catholic high school with several of them, and the ones that I know aren’t interesting enough for television. But it is a very interesting subculture with many facets. I wouldn’t be willing to go on camera, but happy to answer.
You would think in a hundred years things would have changed in their society. I loved how Ken said he needed to go watch the kids so his wife could go live her life. It’s sad this girl will feel trapped and not an equal in her new marriage. She has to go from a nice apartment to a camper now too. We’ve seen many Gypsy’s living in homes so why is this happening? SMH
It’s not so much about how gypsies are treated in the UK, it’s more about how the travelling community behaves. Please take a few moments to Google some of the problems Britain experiences with a lot of the travelling community to understand. A great number of them pay not tax of any description. A lot of them drive without licences, untaxed/unroadworthy vehicles. The children tend to be poorly behaved and problematic, feral more often than not. They move their mobile homes/caravans onto any space (private land, public park, carparks, even the grounds of a hospitals/schools) they then proceed to destroy the area with illegal fly tipping, using the surrounding area as an outside toilet (they won’t use the bathroom in their own caravans). They can cause literally £1000s worth of damage and resulting clearance costs. They are extremely difficult to removed from a property if they don’t want to move and often, the officials and bailiffs are unable to remove them A great many of them will steal anything not nailed down – from stores and properties, stealing cars, caravans, scrap metal. And they are very pugilistic, having big fist fights in places which end up causing damage and destroying hotels or wedding venues – which is why a lot of hotels won’t allow them. They can be extremely difficult to deal with. Please don’t imagine “his business” is anything more than bad tarmacking, bad roofing repairs, scrap metal collecting. He is not a “businessman” as you would understand it. Women in the traveller community have a very raw deal.
There’s actually still a lot of racism and discrimination against gypsies and travellers, a major holiday park company in the uk was caught with a list of Irish traveller names that they don’t allow in their parks for example and people stereotype type them as thieves when a lot of them are lovely respectful people and nothing like they’re portrayed. I have Roma gypsy blood myself and I’m not ashamed of it.
As a Gyspy woman (Romani) I would really love if instead of just making jokes they would research the different Roma cultures around the world bc we are way more than just what these shit shows show us as. Like, I understand that gypsies are “strange” but we are all over the world and our language is beautiful. I would love a article that would show the nice side of our culture versus people just making fun of us and shitting on us.
There was a kid in my year in upper school (the town I grew up in had a three tier system for some reason, so basically American high school, or for normal Brits, year 9 onwards) and though he wasn’t Irish, he was still part of the travelling community, and at some point when we were maybe 15, he stopped coming to school, they said he was being home schooled, when actually people found out that he was working his dad’s family business. Then rumours came through that he was basically promised to his older cousin, they apparently got married and then she left him, or she left him at the altar, it’s unclear but needless to say he never came back to school. I always thought about him because I couldn’t imagine someone the same age as me going through that, when I barely even knew how to look after myself. Also unrelated but there was a scandal in that town of the traveller community keeping some folk as slaves for their patio/paving businesses…. That town was all kinds of weird
The gypsies in Italy are scary. The gas station near our town was broken into by gypsies. The owner was a hunter and used his gun to shoot some gypsy guy in the leg. Harming a robber (even in your own home) is illegal in Italy and the owner was at fault. The Gypsy sent death threats to the owner and they were police officers that had to protect him and his gas station for the next couple of months. Super messed up. Imo the gypsies were at fault for stealing and the guy had a right to defend himself.
As someone from the UK and worked in a hotel, managers always tell us not to let travellers come in because sometimes cause a lot of damage, and if they have children with them the kids will run around and cause a lot of disruption – I had to kick a few families out because of it but that’s the stereotype. Non-traveller people do the same thing sometimes too but that’s how travellers are treated in the UK
“Imagine your whole body shaking just because you told someone about your culture?” What a privileged life. Lmao yall have the best articles and make me L O FREAKIN L but that sentence. 😅 Me shaking when my white boyfriend from Wisconsin flew me out and introduced me to his family. I swore I was going to be murdered! Lol they were great people.
Not gonna lie, I can’t say this view of marriage and how you should act and how men are and how a marriage looks is odd to me, and I live in a normal boring semi-rural area far away from Europe. But being a cat-loving nerdy mental-health-challenged staunchly virgin Christian in her thirties who doesn’t want kids, hates conflict, wants to be free to do what she wants with her home, and isn’t going to lower her standards just so she can be married? Yeah, it doesn’t exactly draw all the boys to the yard. Make no mistake, I’m personally happy with that! But this woman’s view of how marriages frequently end up and how you’re expected to behave to maintain the peace isn’t odd to hear for me.
It isn’t just a UK thing about Gypsy ( travelers) with hotels. I ran 3 motels in Indiana . In late summer there would be a group come through wanting to rent rooms. The first summer we were all about this. You want your rooms filled to save up for cold weather down time. There are rules in every hotel, no cooking on site, be with your children, no running screaming around halls. First night they decided to grill by the door. I had to tell them due to fire marshal rules we couldn’t allow this. Then the kids running and screaming through the halls, then later that night drunken fights by morning we had to ask them to leave because we had one of our buildings 44 rooms all but theirs left most early. The rooms were trashed. Mirrors broken, one bed broke all smoke alarms either broken or removed. One room had a huge square cut out of the carpet??? 6 rooms had to be shut down to be fixed. TV was taken from one room. Wall Mount and all. CRAZY STUFF! That week we had several calls using different names but all the same scenario and accents. Talking with other hotel owners in the area said this happens every year about this time. No matter what if you rent a room it will no last the entire time nor will it end well. This is sad because you can’t judge an entire group, but at the same experience you can’t afford to continue to repair rooms and loose money to other guests leaving for safety and peace.
From germany here. The gypsys always had a hard time. Second world war and even before. Today gypsys are still very much hated in Europe, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Hungary both Roma-gypsys and Sinti-gypsys. Their community lives in extreme poverty and sorry to say so but if you grow up in it, growing out of the expericence is almost impossible. It is sad but scary as well. I had a Roma mate for some time, the guy was great. He explained a lot about the culture and differences. He was lucky to not have grown up all of his childhood in a poor state. Their culture sadly has too many negatives people can easily pick on as well, that’s the truth.
when i used to work for toby carvery in the UK the manager used to refuse seating to gypsies and tell them that we diddnt have tables, my grandfather on my mothers side came from a gypsie family and so yeah people are very prejudice my old boss used to say that gypsies dont pay they walk out without paying alot and make a lot of mess. I reported it to HR and they didnt do anything
Having seen how the behave at parties, how they behave during weddings, and just in general…would you want them renting a room in the hotel you own? That you have to pay for repairs and worry about your other guests being assaulted or not returning because of how wild it is. That’s why they have a stigma about them.
Actually In the UK travelers can settle on pubic land & so many different places. Usually they are made to move if they destroy the place or take over private land. Mostly I see them being moved on when they: break into private industrial land or farm land & steal from the business or make money collecting refuse but dump the refuse they’ve collected on the land & leave someone else to pay to tidy it up. Many aren’t romni though, there are other types of gypsies too. Where I come from one of the gypsy families bit off a girls ear because she wasn’t serving them fast enough in a pub. They also had a friend who was slightly mentally disabled, eventually they kidnapped him & forced him to work for them & kept him in a cage. Armed police had to come rescue him. At the moment they are stealing heating oil & quad bikes from farms.. That’s just one family though. In other areas it’s common for them to have illegal puppy farms for cash in hand
The world is on fire (I mean I guess it always is but feel a little hotter recently) and like you know I’m gonna compliment tf outta this wedding. Bride has family and two parents and she’s a good worker, respectful and cute and the boss guy was chill and seemed nice and the wedding party was full of drama and love. Hell yeah. Beautiful. Peak Renaissance. – chef kiss-
I feel so bad for her 🙁 she was independent had a job and she was happy you could tell and then she had to marry someone and quit her independent life for marriage no I think she should’ve just got her own place and lived for herself as a happy independent women you could tell she was so unhappy also every word her mom said made me really mad but I still hope she does find some type of happiness either way <3