What Does The Wedding At Cana Represent?

This is a nice thought, and it is true that Jesus can change our hearts and marriages, but the story from John 2 isn’t about marriage, it’s about the miracle of turning water into wine. Does John Gray even mention what the ACTUAL miracle was? If not, it looks like JG is trying to sound profound but instead sounds biblically ignorant.

Much is made of the fact that Christ’s first miracle was performed at a wedding. It is considered a rousing endorsement of the institution He created. But can we read a bit too much into this. Nowhere is it recorded in Scripture that Jesus performed a wedding. Wouldn’t such an act be a more determinable and unquestionable endorsement. What words did Christ utter concerning marriage? Perhaps one of most renowned occasions was when the Pharisees attempted to “trap” Jesus with a question concerning divorce. See Matthew 19:3-12. Jesus indicated that those who joined in marriage were entering a perpetual union that no man- or woman-made entity, policy, or philosophy could end. The intention of God for marriage was that its highest and climatic point would not be a momentary or temporary thing, but that it would go from peak to peak and find its climax only in the death of one or both parties. Getting married and being unhappily married was not Abba Father’s design! The peaks of marriage should be abundant & joyful, and not occasionally experienced, but a steady stream. I pray God’s healing and provision on those who are not experiencing a steady stream of joy in their marriage. @NotesOfAMan

I think it’s possible that Jesus made more wine than needed, because making it does not mean Jesus was telling them to get drunk or overindulge. But as in everything God overprovides. This is another twisting of scripture to fit your ideology. If you feel alcohol is bad, then you should not, and do it for the Lord. If you think Jesus did not drink alcohol, consider Matthew 11:19 where Jews accused Jesus of being ‘a drunkard’. Now of course I disagree with the accusation, but why would they accuse that if he was drinking grape juice?

Did it say “new wine” in that verse? If it didn’t, you’re probably wrong about all of them drinking grape juice at a wedding. And you’re forgetting the entire Last Supper… are you saying Jesus said “drink this grape juice, for it is my blood?” If you don’t feel like drinking alcohol, just don’t drink alcohol. Just stand up for yourself. Stop trying to fit the bible, of all things, into your own preferences…

Thank you for this. IT has cleared up a lot for me. I used to drink alcohol. I haven’t for a long time now ‼️ but several (friends) and I use the term loosely. Would say to me if Jesus Christ didn’t want US to drink alcohol then WHY did he turn water into wine. NOW I have a answer for them ‼️ THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH ME ❤️👍🏽🙏🏾💯

I’m going to ask was there no other name for wine between wine being grape juice or wine being fermented? There is also this phrase in proverbs that seems to support strong drinki… Proverbs 31:6-7 King James Version (KJV) Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, And wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, And remember his misery no more

For all you people saying “but the Bible uses the word wine”, then you should read this: Did Jesus drink wine? If you study the Hebrew and Greek words for it, then you will find that the Hebrew word ‘yayin’ can both mean fermented grape juice OR unfermented grape juice sweetened with sugar. Isaiah 16:10 says, “The treaders shall tread out no wine (yayin) in there presses”. Obviously, you don’t squeeze fermented wine fresh out the grapes! In Jeremiah 40:10 & 12, he refers to the juice still in the grape as ‘yayin’. Still, this word is used sometimes with fermented grape juice. SO you probably would now ask, “How do we know if Jesus drank unfermented or fermented grape juice?” Well, in the New Testament and every time Jesus was mentioned drinking ‘wine’, the Greek word ‘oinos’ is used. That word was used in the pre-Christian times by both secular and religious scholars to describe UNFERMENTED grape juice. The New Testament scholars intentionally used the word ‘oinos’ when referencing Jesus because they knew he drank unfermented grape juice. Luke, and the other writes of the Gospels used this word with the Lord’s Supper. Also, the first three Gospel writers used “fruit of the vine” in Matthew 26:29, Mark 14:25, and Luke 22:18. Obviously, natural grape juice is the only true natural “fruit of the vine” and that includes the 20% sugar in it. When you ferment grape juice, the fermentation destroys much of the sugar and making it alcoholic which makes it no longer the natural “fruit of the vine”.

You know I have grown too very much appreciate Bible flock box. What he’s teaching here that was one biblical. There’s so many different verses that speak about wine and it’s talking about for a minute wine. If he was interested in the truth then he would point out that even Paul said take a little one for your stomach if you read that context you know a little sip of wine or something like that you got a remember now Bible flock box is an awesome guy but most of what he teaches comes offer Seventh-day Adventist doctrine and I know because I was the Seventh-day Adventist myself. Seventh Avenue us are fine people most of them are saved but they teach a work-based salvation and where the rubber meets the road it all has to do with what day you go to church on and don’t work just fine gentlemen tell you any different also yes they used one in the Bible frequently as matter fact after the flood Noah had been drinking and two of his sons were respectful and backed up and covered their father up from his nakedness. The other brother did not and there was consequences for this.

I would have to disagree. First I want to address a couple of assumptions I notice in the article. 1, we seem to be assuming that there was only 100 people at the wedding based off of what someone may have speculated. Truth is, we don’t know. 2, we seem to be assuming that all of that wine would have been dranked. 3, we may be confusing what it means to be drunk, vs what it means to be tipsy. Of course, some religious denominations will consider it the same, but realistically, to be drunk seems to be subjective considering, a person can still remain in the spirit and walking in righteousness and be completely aware of his surroundings and not sin. Even if they’re considered what some people call “drunk”. Proverbs 20:1 doesn’t seem to be condemning fermented wine. If fact, it directly tells us what it’s saying. “Those who are led astray by it is not wise”. It doesn’t say those who drink it. I will agree to an extent on the one of the Kings but simply having 1 beer doesn’t pervert your judgment. If you allow alcohol to pervert your judgement, it. I could have a couple of beers and still look a woman dead in the face who is seducing me and tell her to go away because fornication is a sin. And I’m 23 years old. And the problem with bringing up Romans 14:21 about causing another brother to stumble, this wouldn’t be consistent considering several different things and context. 1.) The context of not eating meat or drinking wine was IN FRONT OF A BROTHER who will stumble or his conscience will be defiled.

Definately I believe he turned water into wine. It’s possible that he did so much so that they had enough to turn into money as they would have sold the excess. But the man in charge of the wedding said that people normally trick the guests by serving the cheap wine later on. Also the Bible says wine is good for your stomach.

The wine spoken of is the wine of his teachings. First the master of the house presented what he understood, which was watered down, but when Jesus spoke it was the pure Word if God, the best for last. New wine = new teachings, old wine skins = people who had previously learned other teachings. To attempt to fill them with new teachings would cause the message to get mixed with the old thereby ruined.

The English word “wine” in John 2 is the Greek word oinos and it means “fermented wine” it does not mean “grape juice” Ephesians 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit. the word “wine” in this verse is the exact same Greek word used in John 2, its the word oinos how can a person get drunk with grape juice? How much grape juice would a person need to consume before they even come close to the point of intoxication? Revelation 16:19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath. Once again, the word “wine” here is the Greek word oinos the same word used in John 2 the cup of God’s fierce wrath is not filled with “grape juice” it is filled with wine.

If it were grape juice Jesus would have said grape juice . However this young man has had a rough road in life and would like that no one would experience the mistakes he has made . Some people enjoy there food and there wine and also have a wonderful close relationship with Jesus Christ. This young man does a fine job of manipulating scripture as he also did a fine job manipulating people to buy Drugs of which we have no idea how many people died from them when he was a drug dealer of which he did 8 years in prison. He says you must observe the Sabbath from Friday -Sat. you cannot drink fermented drink you cannot eat certain foods God knows what else you cannot do that he says is a sin . I will tell you Jesus ate his food and drank his wine and you would call Him a glutton and a drunk . I came into this world drinking from a baby bottle and eating Gerber food then graduated to Prime rib, lobster tails and Merlot . But remember this do not judge, critisize or condemn me or might throw up on you.

Wine makes the heart Merry. Give the afflicted soul, wine. All things are permissible, but all things are not beneficial. A glass of wine after a hard day’s work is very beneficial. Timothy drank a little wine for his upset stomach. Drinking wine is not a sin. Getting drunk is. Judging people who drink is a sin. To say that (drinking any amount is a sin), is a sin itself. Because that’s a lie. The disciples drank wine at the last supper. Nobody got drunk.

why not just leave it being water. Was water not good enough ? Also keep in mind we are talking about the roman empire which controlled Jerusalem at the time so we can look at what the romans were drinking. Also in modern times wine is better the older it is apparently. So guessing it was the same back then.

You also really need to look at the times. Yes there were people who lived with drinking problems back then but the water wasn’t always good and fermentation of fruits was natural and safer for someone to drink. Jesus knew what He was doing when He changed the water into wine. And our words for wine now are different than then. Jesus didn’t break any laws by making wine. God bless

in our churches we consumed alcoholic wine at the communion He can use a donkey bone it is more about the state of our hearts, either one can be “wrong” if it doesn’t bring us closer to Jesus transforming our hearts, judging not.. but judge with mercy and truth Talking about, being about His Nature, His Ways Being His Instrument of Grace

The purpose of Jesus first miracle was to reveal to His followers that He was the true vine sent by God. The waters in the six pots (Mikvah’s) was not clean water at all. Technically it was also symbolically full of sin. Jesus acted as a vine by transforming the nasty water into pure holy grape fruit drink. The disciples of Jesus was the branches that carried the fruit to the Head master representing God the Father at the wedding supper in Heaven. The groom represents Jesus, and we are the transformed fruit from sin filled water.

believe that what he did was teach from the old testament Remember Noah after the flood What the drinking in excess caused By that knowledge and then wisdom being begeted Did not the water become as pleasing as wine Also showing in all regard for the father that Coming together of man and woman be defiled by the drink Rather the water was seen anew as in baptism A transfiguration of the mind Towards God and spiritual Keeping the marriage sacred and becoming of one flesh Dilution with the water Would be correct To say. Becoming something new after being baptized Let it be known as such Let the correct interpretation be known

Joseph has the birthright Genesis 48/17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head unto Manasseh’s head. 18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. 19 And his father would not, and he said, “I know, my son, I also know he(Manasseh/Israel) shall be a people(Christians), also he (Jesus) shall be great, however his(Manasseh/Jesus) little brother(Ephraim/other individual) will be greater than he(Manasseh/ Jesus), and his(Ephraim/ other individual) seed shall be the fullness of the nations.” 20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim/other guy and as Manasseh/Jesus: and he set Ephraim/other guy before Manasseh/Jesus. Romans 11/25 For I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you may not be wise in yourselves: A hardening in part has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Nations may come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it has been written: “The One Delivering will come out of Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob. 27 And this is the covenant from Me to them, when I shall take away their sins.” See Isaiah 27 & 59 also book of Habakkuk for more reading

The action of water into wine was a judgment upon the pharises. The 6 pots he used were sacred rabbinical law water pots that were used for purification of jews. This is from the Talmud, not the Torah. It is MAN MADE law. He was mocking the rabbinical false doctrine and placing his judgement upon the pharises.

Did Jesus change the water into wine or grape juice? John chapter 2 records Jesus performing a miracle at a wedding in Cana of Galilee. At the wedding, the hosts ran out of wine. Jesus’ mother, Mary, asks Jesus to intervene, and He does so, reluctantly. Jesus has the servants bring six jars filled with water and then instructs the servants to give it to the overseer of the celebration. The water miraculously turns into wine, and the overseer declares that it was the best wine he had ever tasted. In this account, Jesus performed an amazing miracle, actually altering the molecular composition of the water, changing it into wine. The point of the account is summarized in John 2:11, “He thus revealed His glory, and His disciples put their faith in Him.” Usually, though, when this passage is studied, a side issue becomes the main issue. Did Jesus transform the water into wine (fermented, alcoholic) or into grape juice (non-alcoholic)? Throughout the passage, the Greek word translated “wine” is oinos, which was the common Greek word for normal wine, wine that was fermented/alcoholic. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is the same word for the wine the wedding feast ran out of. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is also the same word that is used in Ephesians 5:18, “…do not get drunk on wine…” Obviously, getting drunk from drinking wine requires the presence of alcohol. Everything, from the context of a wedding feast, to the usage of oinos in 1st century Greek literature (in the New Testament and outside the New Testament), argues for the wine that Jesus created to be normal, ordinary wine, containing alcohol.

Bologna … What difference does it make how much wine was made? That doesn’t force anyone to drink it. Two I’ve heard these explanations before about grape juice and it’s just silly grape juice naturally ferments wind keeps grape juice does not. It was a wedding feast and they always drink alcoholic things because the scripture also says wind makes the heart Merry. Did the New Testament it says drink a little wine it is good for your stomach. In the old testament when speaking of keeping the feast of tabernacles says that you can drink wine and strong drink. It’s silly to think they didn’t drink wine. How they filtered the wine back in the day was to run it through Charcoal This removes sulfates which makes the wine give people a hangover or a headache. Filtered wine doesn’t have sulfates. People drink wine at wedding feast that was one of the purposes it’s silly to try to explain it away

Yes actually I think Jesus absolutely would present us with 3 times what we need, even alcohol and other substances some of which are good for people in moderation, and give us the choice to not be greedy, not make choices we know may bring us to a dark place, I have made these choices and seen this dark place, but I returned with a light, resisting such temptations or at least coming back from that dark place when your stray, this is a test, one that we in western society fail on a daily basis, and most of us myself including should be very fucking ashamed of what we have allowed ourselves to become.

You can’t be wiser than YHWH and Jesus Good presentation but you can’t say that Jesus turned water into grape juice… Jesus used to drink wine It’s not a sun to drink new wine(fresh wine) wine,and strong drinks…. Just as it’s not a sin to eat food…. Don’t be a drunkard and a gluttonous… Drink in moderation and eat in moderation.. The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds.” — Matthew 11:19 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ — Luke 7:34 then you shall exchange it for money, and bind the money in your hand and go to the place which YHWH your God chooses. You may spend the money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever your heart desires; and there you shall eat in the presence of YHWH your God and rejoice, you and your household. Also you shall not neglect the Levite who is in your town, for he has no portion or inheritance among you. — Deuteronomy 14:25-27 Then the drink offering with it shall be a fourth of a hin for each lamb, in the holy place you shall pour out a drink offering of strong drink to YHWH. — Numbers 28:7 “Do not drink wine or strong drink, neither you nor your sons with you, when you come into the tent of meeting, so that you will not die⁠—it is a perpetual statute throughout your generations⁠— — Leviticus 10:9(Don’t drink when doing YHWH’s duty) he shall abstain from wine and strong drink; he shall drink no vinegar, whether made from wine or strong drink, nor shall he drink any grape juice nor eat fresh or dried grapes.

If drinking is a sin, why would Paul advice Timothy to drink a little wine? You made assumptions that Messiah would not promote drinking to people. However, Paul clearly promoted it. Why is it then that you assume Messiah can’t promote the drinking of wine? Let’s be careful and not add or remove to the bible. The bible never describes drinking alcohol as sin.

Its funny perusal you lean on your own understanding when trying to explain it was actually grape juice, because there is no other way to explain away the idea that 1 beer can be less alc. than a cup of wine. Lol(yet the single beer has been proven to be harmful). You know, there have been previous uses for alcohol consumption that where proven to be beneficial as well.(not in excess of course.) Id have to have about 5-6 beers before i start thinking irrationally or feel different, certainly not feeling anything from a single beer.(i dont drink much or often). But i know the bible doesnt instruct us to completely avoid alc. In such a way that it does unclean meat. It just warns of the danger of the sins we may may fall victim to when no longer sobor.

Jesus drank wine in the good supper it was historically necessary to add wine to water to purity it and there are many verses in the Bible that promote wine. If it was that big of an issue the Bible would clearly state do not drink alcohol as a law. Your argument is speculation. Sins should be clearly defined in the Bible.

Jesus never drank alcohol Jesus never consumed pork Jesus believed in one god Jesus worshipped one god Jesus prayed to one god Jesus fasted Jesus was circumcised Jesus never celebrated xmas Jesus kept all the commandments Its very clear jesus was not a Christian but a practicing muslim like the prophets before him