Traditionally, registering for fine china was considered the standard for engaged couples, but many couples now skip registering for china and silver. The number of marriages in China has declined for nine consecutive years, falling by half in less than a decade. In 2022, about 6.8 million couples registered for marriage, with the number of women dropping from 13.5 million couples in 2013 to 6.8 million in 2022.
Parental and cultural pressures continue to place pressure on many individuals, especially women, to choose socially and economically advantageous marriages. In China, marriage rates are down and bride prices are up, with brides choosing to stay single. Wedding traditions date back to superstitions, and brides can wear a white wedding dress if it affirms their gender expression.
As couples create their modern wedding registries, the inclusion of fine china tends to be a toss-up: some pairs absolutely include a selection of beautiful, delicate dinnerware pieces while others request other items that suit their home and lifestyle best. While most American brides are no longer choosing china place settings, it is still considered wedding china and offers sentimentality without storage issues.
Wedding registries have shifted with a new generation of brides favoring more casual entertaining items over super formal serveware. The idea of china itself has become so antiquated and uber traditional that people think registering for it means you need to make sure to pick the right items.
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Do people still buy china for weddings?
Look for something unique. More clients are registering for fun everyday china they’ve found at a local specialty shop. Then they go for classic formal china, says wedding planner Arney Walker. It’s not outdated if you use it.
Add glassware. Walker says her clients are more likely to register for glassware instead of silver. While polishing silver isn’t a must before a dinner party, glassware is easier to care for and adds sparkle to the table.
Choose a few versatile pieces. Don’t have the money for china? Choose pieces you can use for more than just fancy dinners. Mix and match! Look around! Morris says. Some pieces can be used in casual and formal settings.
Do brides register for china anymore?
How many china dishes do you need? Today, the definition and use of wedding china is more flexible. You can register for as many or as few china dishes as you like. If you’re unsure, there are some traditional guidelines you can follow. Register for eight to 12 place settings, but this depends on your family size and how many guests you invite for dinner. If you have a big dining room table and plan to host many guests, you may want to register for more sets. It’s smart to have a few extra plates than places at your table in case of extra guests or broken china. If you live in an apartment and your kitchen counter is where you eat, four to six sets might be better (and easier to store). Now that you’ve decided on the number of place settings, think about what each one should contain. Classically, china place settings come in four or five pieces. The former has a dinner plate, salad/dessert plate, bread plate, soup bowl, and cup. The latter has all of the above, plus a saucer for the cup.
Is fine china worth anything?
The value of fine china depends on the brand, condition, location, and age. Older, antique china is worth more than newer pieces.
Where it comes from can also affect its value. Limoges china from Limoges, France, is expensive. This type of china is made from clay from Limoges, which was discovered in the 18th century. Check for the hallmark, a logo on the bottom or back of the item. The hallmark can be a name, symbol, photo, or country of origin. English china usually has a unicorn, a lion, or a royal symbol. The hallmark can be painted, printed, or stamped. Knowing the hallmark lets you find other valuable features like the type and age. In the early days of pottery, artists used different clays to make china. The internet is a great place to find this information. Here’s a website to help you identify porcelain marks.
Does anyone want china dishes anymore?
The Case for Fine China. While some couples shop for dinnerware that is more modern, others still like fine china. People still buy fine china, but they don’t do it just because they have to or because it’s tradition. They buy it because they want it. Stephanie Matthews, a marketing lead at Compass who got married in September 2021, originally added fine china to her registry but removed it. She now regrets that decision. “Even if you get just one plate, you have something to use and can start to complete the set,” she says. “It’s nice to remember who gave us what and think about it every time we use things. It would be nice to have a plate or dish from someone. She says many of her everyday items remind her of the people who gave her the pieces. She wants to buy a set of china dishes, but it feels like a lost opportunity. “It’s like buying a nice thing versus having a tie-in to your wedding.” The choice to use or not use fine china is now more about personal preferences than obligation or formality. (About 15% of couples on The Knot Registry Store choose more formal settings). Instead, a couple can create a registry fund to buy plates on their honeymoon or choose something from a local ceramicist. Some couples still use fine china, but they use it more casually.
Generational changes. Couples are also interested in the brands they are buying. “They want practical items and to support good companies,” says Nowack. Couples spend more time researching fine china before buying it. They want to know how it is made and approve of the business practices involved.
Why is vintage china making a comeback?
Bone china is making a comeback because it can be used in many ways. Bone china is no longer just for formal dining. New designs and patterns have made it suitable for everyday use. New bone china and vegan bone china have also helped. New bone china combines traditional elegance with modern manufacturing. This new approach makes the product look and feel like bone china but is stronger and doesn’t chip. New bone china is vegan-friendly because it doesn’t contain any animal products. New bone china is better than stoneware and plain porcelain because it is more durable, refined, and translucent. Stoneware is not as pretty as bone china, and plain porcelain is not as interesting as bone china.
Is it worth trying to sell old china?
You can make hundreds or thousands of dollars selling Nanas china plates. But most of the time, what was valuable to your family is worth $5 to $20. With the holidays coming up, it’s a good time to sell your unused china and crystal for cash. If you haven’t used that Spode Christmas platter or those Waterford wine glasses in three years, sell them now. Vintage china, glassware, and flatware can bring thousands of dollars. But demand for formal dinnerware is down, so sell it before the end of the year. You can make a few hundred dollars or more when you sell Nana’s china plates. But what was sentimental to your family is worth about $5 to $20 a plate.
Do people buy fine china anymore?
There’s still a demand for it, but it’s not as big as it once was. Young girls used to choose their china patterns and get a piece for every special occasion until they got married. By then, they had a complete set of dinnerware.
But the world is more casual now. Stoodley knows a lot about porcelain. She sold Royal Doulton china in Calgary for 28 years.
Is fine china out of style?
It’s not the right of passage it was decades ago to get a set of china. Some people still collect it, but it might not even end up on a wedding registry. “Younger people don’t see the need to use their space for things that are ceremonial,” said Cecilia Jones, a personal organizer and productivity coach in Silver Spring, Maryland. Neda Ghaffari, a 37-year-old San Francisco doctor who married last summer, registered for modern dinnerware she could use daily or for entertaining. Ghaffari said that China feels outdated and difficult to maintain because it has to be hand-washed.
What can I do with old fine china?
20 Ways to Recycle, Upcycle, and Repurpose Old China Candles. Candles are easy to transform. … Lamps, chandeliers, candelabras, nightlights. Mosaics. … Jewelry. Bird feeders. … Centerpieces. Paper flower vases. … Napkin rings. I’m a purist and don’t want to change. Teacups are for tea or ice cream. They should be for food and drink and to set an elegant table, but is that always possible? I cringe when I see teacups used for bird feeders, but I can’t save them all. Why it matters. I want to bring back tea time, keep traditions alive, and spread the love, joy, and history of teacups. I talk about collecting and using beautiful china to anyone who will listen. I’ll show anyone who will listen to me photos of beautiful teacups. As a dealer and appraiser, I see thousands of teacups each year. My need for perfection affects our inspection process. I choose items carefully for our website. If a piece is not perfect, it cannot be sold. We sell items without chips, cracks, crazing, wear, hairlines, scratches, repairs, or restoration. Not easy for a vintage teacup. We choose to have fewer, better teacups on our website.
Is China dinnerware coming back in style?
People don’t use formal china much these days. Many people who got rid of their china did so when they downsized. But older dishes are making a comeback in homes too.
Is china dinnerware coming back in style?
People don’t use formal china much these days. Many people who got rid of their china did so when they downsized. But older dishes are making a comeback in homes too.
Is it worth trying to sell old China?
You can make hundreds or thousands of dollars selling Nanas china plates. But most of the time, your family’s sentimental china is worth about $5 to $20 a plate.
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I’ve known about Stephanie for awhile but I just never watched her articles, but after randomly perusal one of her articles one day a couple of months ago, I have completely fallen in love with her vids, personality, her relationship with her fiancé, and her family. I literally watch her all the time now
Oh, it reminds me of one of my favorite Korean actresses, Gong Hyo-jin. I recall her once said that she really fell in love with all her co-stars and after each filming of a drama, she will need a few months to come to terms that the love was not real and let the love go before she films another drama. I love her because she always has chemistry with her co-stars, and I can see why. I can’t even imagine what she has to go through after each drama ends. As for this guy… he has his “looks” working for him and people were overlooking everything bad about him. So, no one really checked the guy or told him off since he was a child. It’s far too late once he got his taste for the CEO role. For someone who clearly wasn’t bright and off BEFORE he got famous, he most likely believes the CEO role IS him. He is stuck in his role and does not have the brain capacity to realize it. Even if someone does try to slowly explain it to him, he would never believe it. He seems to have ZERO self-awareness. Never liked this actor before.
YESSSS as someone who is absolutely obsessed with the C-Ent Industry I absolutely love it when you cover stories of Chinese celebs and re-live the moment when all of those went down in real time! sometimes you even brought up details that I completely forgot and it re-ignited something in my memory and I absolutely love that feeling 😂
Actually, Huang Xiaoming was the childhood idol of many people. We didn’t even feel anything wrong with the dominant CEO characters at that time. When time changed, Huang got so much criticism and he had started to change. There are two actors called “Younger Huang”, who are still acting in that greasy way. One is Yang Yang. Another one is Zhang Han, who is the ex of ZS. They are really on another level.
she is shipped a lot with zhengkai (also full-time member of running man) but when she got divorced, he got married. yang mi (the one that had to take his shirt off or whatever) is also best friends with angelababy. this year during one of the award ceremony, while huang was on stage, angelababy whispered something to yangmi and yangmi’s expression was so shocked, there was a whole meme going around about that.
The mukbangs that Stephanie post in every article that I watch makes me want to eat those same food, and it also made me learn new kinds of food out there that I have not heard of as it intrigues me to try it in the future. 😊 I have told my family that your mukbangs are inspiration of food in the future if I am struggling to figure out what to eat. I also want to thank Stephanie for these kind of articles as it helps me destress and relax from my studies.❤ It is very entertaining to watch!!!
Hi Stephanie and family, I just wanted to let you know that I’m a new fan! I currently have to work in a pretty empty office this summer and it can feel pretty lonely but your articles keep me company while I get my work done. Thank you so much for basically being my companion this summer (although I do plan to stay longer. Much love 💕
Stephanie I feel like you’re one of my best friends, the others all being youtubers also, cause you gals keep me company for hours, talk to me, are there for me whether I’m sad or happy or lonely or just want some entertainment, and I know it’s insane cause you don’t even know I exist, but I love having dinner perusal one of your mukbangs, I specifically look for the closest food to what I’m eating, so that I feel like I’m sitting across DanDan and next to Stephiance and I’m just there hanging with you guys and you’re telling the story while we all listen and feast on the food. I had a particularly depressing day today, I cried a lot, and so you know what I did? That’s right, watched some old vids of yours, cause I only found your website 3 months ago and there is so much to catch up with. Thank you for existing, your presence brightens my days. You, CelinaSpookyBoo, and KallMeKris are my girls, my bffs, I love you all so much, and if it’s weird that you don’t even know I exist, then that’s on brand, cause most of what I do and who I am is considered weird by people, but guess I much I care lol. Love from Switzerland, I hope you’ll have the best time here, and since I don’t know when you’ll be here, I already welcome you two and you and your whole families into my small but beautiful Country, might it be as magic to you as it is to me! And yes, you absolutely might encounter cows with the bells on, majority of them don’t have it, but once my husband was on a walk in the countryside and just came across a field with some cows with the bells on, I really wish you’ll get to see them!
oh my god thank you so much stephanie i am obsessed with ur articlees podcasts everything but in every mukbang im not reallyyyyy interested in the mukbang so i have to dance over the article and go back and forth to find the perfect place where u start the case and im so so greatfull that u made the littele intersections
i wont lie, im not a mental health professional or a psychiatrist but as a neurodivergent person he just seems to be on the spectrum. He has a strong sense of right and wrong and rules and believes in consistency and struggles to stray from his comfort zone in acting and even in terms of the manager role, he takes every little task so seriously to the point that he overdoes it. How he takes so many things so literally as well. I don’t think he is dumb, he maybe just never received help for an undiagnosed neurodivergence, I hope people stop making fun of him for his personality, he seems harmless overall 🙁
In one of the interviews, he said he marrying her because his mother likes her and she also wanted him getting married, it’s like at the right time when he needed, girl is available so just takes her, the wife must be very sad to hear that. It’s not because I loves her so I marry her, I just want to satisfy my mom. After awhile, the rumor of the divorce started.
I don’t know what to think about this one tbh lol. Everything up until the cooking show seemed fine to me. The wedding seemed romantic and I felt kind of sad for him cus he seemed more in love with Angela Baby than she was with him. The shirt unbuttoning saga, I kind of felt sad for him cus he was being hyper sexualised because of his looks but then criticised for thinking he’s too good looking? I just imagine that happening to someone like Scarlett Johansen or another female actress, being told to unbutton her shirt and then a male actor pulling the shirt wider open. Maybe I’m wrong but he just seems a bit inarticulate, awkward, and naive but I don’t really get super greasy vibes from him. Also all we can see is his behaviour in front of a camera…how he is without cameras, is anyone’s guess. Great article though 🙂
The fact that his attitude did not change as he got older means that he does not take the advice of people around him very well and shuts down the idea of change from these people. OR it could be the other way around, the people in his circle enabled him to be the greasy guy that he is and keeps on feeding his ego because of circumstances like he is their employer so they cannot go against him or say the wrong things, the risk of getting fired is high. Also I feel like he does not have genuine friends at all and even his family is afraid to criticize him.
RUNNING MAN WAS MY SHIT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER! Every summer I would go to China for vacation and I would just watch running man on tv. Another year another season, on the show they always shot the scenes with Angela baby and Zheng Kai to be portrayed “romantically” and I always shipped them together. But when Huang Xiao Ming pulled up that one episode it crushed my ship 😭. Forever wish that Angela baby and Zheng Kai got together woulda treat her right
Color me surprised when I recognized Huang Xiaoming as Cheng Fengtai in the 2020 drama Winter Begonia, easily one of my fav Chinese dramas (tho I haven’t watched that many anyway lol) Definitely a “bad boy CEO” type in that one, but it’s a historical drama set in 1930s’ pre-WWII China with Yin Zheng as his co-star. I haven’t seen Huang’s other shows, but I think Winter Begonia is solid A-plus work. Maybe Huang just needs another male co-star to share screentime and balance him out? Cuz their in-character chemistry is great. His behavior definitely seems more icky with female co-stars, perhaps it’s the product of implicit sexist ideas?
Stephanie! You are so funny! I first saw a article of yours… your wedding article! I recognized your name, but didn’t know who you were ! Then I looked you up and saw your Rotten Mango articles and I am hooked! You are really relatable, I love your now husbands’ comments, and your cousin is adorable! I a, granny aged, but still think he is handsome! Keep up the great work on these articles! This one was excellent!
At 31:25 I absolutely love how you did the interpretation for us. The extra bit of flair in the physical acting deserves a chef’s kiss!😘 Having the three of you sharing the different languages, the meanings of words and phrases, the background of some of the slang and understandings…it brings me so much more enjoyment than just a straight narrative. Well done to all of you. 👏😍💜
To us Chinese Angelababy and huang xiao ming is sort of (but not rlly?) like the song hye kyo and song joong ki of the Chinese entertainment industry. Tbh even though I know the story pretty well since I’m Chinese and their marriage was EVERYWHERE at the time, its still fun to listen to you guys just talk about it.
The way I giggled and laughed on my back porch from the intense cringe and had to go inside so my neighbors don’t think I’m unhinged! 😂 Y’all warned me about the oiliness and I still tried to watch all the way thru outside. This guy is something else and so freaking extra! 😂 The voice changer edit to do his voice tho….my stomach hurts! At first I was like….if you have the money for all that extra wedding this and that for you and your bride go for it (I don’t care for “fairy tale wedding stuff) then that changed so fast as the story went on and he had the NERVE TO PERFORM AND DRESS LIKE G DRAGON! G DRAGON! I CAN’T WITH THIS DUDE!!!!!😫 I’m a huge fan of Bi Rain and if I was getting married to a guy who knew that and had he means to easily have him at the wedding and had splurged millllllliooomnns and had everybody else there and did a crazy cringe MTV performance of a Bi Rain song himself, I would be so pissed, embarassed and rethinking my decision to marry him lol
omg he is so cringe but tbf a lot of the shows stephanie talked about are old 2000s shows and the scripts are all this kind because the audience loved it and the scripwriters wrote most of it in the same manner… super oily/greasy/cringey lines and bad boy ceo forcing himself on the female lead etc.
I quite liked Huang Xiaoming’s acting, but it’s probably because I’ve seen him in his best roles? I saw him on Nirvana in Fire 2 first, and then Winter Begonia. Those are of course (in comparison to his early ‘greasy’ shows) waaaaaaaay better shows. NIF 2 is one of my favourite shows and I think he had the best chemistry with his on-screen wife (Tong Liya) there. Glad to have watched him in his best roles first, because the CEO roles are really cringe.
I’ve been waiting for another Chinese news story!! And this time it’s about Angela baby!! And her ex husband lol Jay chou next!? The Xiao zhan case is also pretty interesting too. He went on hiatus for a long time because he got cancelled for something he didn’t do. Wang yibo got back lash too for this stupid case and it’s just crazy
When I hear or see celebrities on Korean or Chinese reality tv being assholes I always wonder how people have the patience to deal with them because I am a really passive person but even I feel like I’d sock somebody in the face. Or even if it made me look bad you best believe I would be talking shit at least lol.
Hey Steph I felt like u havent cover the whole story, or the “end” of his greasiness. The last year or two he has been getting a lot of love cus he is now officially “oil free”. He does it in a couple of steps, so he lost a lot of weight, he no longer plays ceo roles at all, n hes a lot more humble. Recently in one of the red carpet he is even voted the best looking despite he is 45. (there a lot of young celebrities in their twenties n they have tons of makeup on, n Huang looks effortless.)
Omg Steph your work ethic is literally a dragon ball z power up compilation. Thank you for all the fun adorable great vibe articles 🥺 I wuv you!! Dan Dan! I left a comment on your article posted 9 months ago…😒 life is probably lifeing for you and i wish you the absolute best on your journey. If you do come back to YT, some free advice, do some skin care content (not being shady, we can see that you are having some issue which let me be clear, does not take away from how HOT you are, I mean that real talk) but I think not enough straight men have honest discussions about taking care of their skin. Either way I will continue to enjoy the content that you both provide. ❤
But still spending that much money on her still he loved her that much…Also If I was such a big celebrity like him, I would have spent that much money on my wedding too! Because it’s once in lifetime and also I want to show off my haters! To me it’s so cute he cosplayed her wife’s idol😂 For that, I would have lived with him for a few hours more!😆 But what he said on that cooking show is just a huge RED FLAG!!!
I never really understand the word “Oily” or Greasy but Huang Xiaoming, I’ve seen some of his movies, tv series & I love all of them. You can easily get carried away with his emotions when he’s acting & Him playing the “Bad boy, bad ass guy” suits him very well. He has the looks & attitude and maybe at that time playing those roles is probably more appealing to his fans so of course writers have to cater to what the majority wants to see. I don’t get a all the bad fuss about him and saying his acting is bad but i beg to disagree. He is the whole package, acting, looks & voice, all in one. Winter Begonia is the next drama series I’m going to watch after the Game Changer 😊 . As far as his love life, don’t care much. I’m just for the good feel movies 😊
Huang Xiaoming was not like that. He was an unpopular small fish for a long time with a crush on campus queen Zhao Wei (his college crush who completely ignored him was on the Chinese classic TV drama Princess Returning Pearl so she was a big fish from her very start). Now he is a bigger deal than she is. Only married Angelababy since his mom pushed him into it. His Mom was a big fan. 😂 Stephanie Soo cannot read Chinese so she does not have the whole picture at all!
Can i just take a moment to say this and i know its random and it might ve even awkward but i just wanted to say that i am a huge fan and even feel jealous of the beautiful relashionship you two have literally one of the healthiest couples i ever saw. I also have a dream of becoming a journalist but i have alot of insecurties about my abilities but non comapred to been scared of judgments by others especially the one I love. My biggest fear been in a conservative society that my mane and my in laws would be judgmental or shame me for it. You two are the luckiest to find each other and am so happy that you got married i pray the ALLAH ( God ) will bless you with health and joy and someday i would ve blessed with someone who is as loving and supportive of me as you both are of each other. Sending you all the love from north africa❤❤❤
I have learn so much throughout my years. As a women who served in the military and theres so much more happened in those ten years. Yet, I had two kids, worked and full time school student. ive losted time with my kids. let me say i was great, but now my kids 6 and 8 eight, divorced. MArriage is important and your kids. Never in my life I thought i would say say this. I did all the independent thing, but my kids needed thier mom MEN needs to KNOW that too. I can tell you stories about the daycare..i was born and raised in CA till 18 and left and came back to get my degree. Married and had kids. Any honorable man would say hey lets have a family and do this together. I am all for the traditional wife, Ive done been the 50/50 but kids at a young age need stability. it gets wild. been living in the south for 4 years, love it. I love my hometown, but atleast these men here in the south take it more serious than CA. Cheating to etc. they will court you and love you.dont be a luke worm, cuz here they aren’t
The pig analogy is the best analogy I’ve heard regarding population declines. Here in the states, it’s more the corporations are paying money to sound the alarm about our declining population. It’s not cause they care about the future of humanity, but rather they fear losing their labor force as well as their consumer bases.
Rich people always said, live within your means, they look down on people who have kids, when that family can’t afford to give their kids necessities in life like shelter or food without assistance. I was born 1989 not in China but I feel I’m connected with people born during the same years, regardless of country. I understand their sentiment and concerns. Why would I create stress for myself? If you wanted us to have kids then why did you make it so costly to do so? It will just be miserable for everyone involved and that’s the position rich people, oligarchs, banks and Wall Street want us in. If we are suffering we are more likely to put up with their horrible labor policies and practices. If we are busy working multiple jobs to feed our kids we are too busy to be educated to vote or have opinions.
The housing price explosion has had the same effect in Australia. If it wasn’t for massive immigration, Australia’s population would of collapsed already. Even with all that the population bell is still inverted with far to few children. It seams as though the native population has decided to fade away, but just like in Idiocracy, some demographics will outbreed others. The overall trend is a dumbing down of the citizens and really they have no choice but to do that. People with average intelligence are proving problematic to the ministry of truth.
Imagine going through 22 years of studying and you have no job or low paying work at twelve hours a day and then you have to take care of two parents, for grandparents without the help of a sibling. No time or money to get married, buy property, and have kids. Now too many old people and not enough young people working or working too hard for too little. No tax money to support the elderly. None of these young people will buy homes and the housing market will collapse.
What no one mentions is the imbalance male to female numbers. They have significantly far more men than women in China (due to the preference of having boys), therefore many millions of men won’t be able to find a wife (even if they wanted one) as the numbers are off, so I’m glad to see the narrative being that young men are choosing not to bother with a wife, car, house, kids when the reality is more like the option isn’t available to them anyway… there’s not enough women. And that’s their own fault due to not valuing the girls. How can you increase a population when you have majority boys? It doesn’t work.
With the pressure to study hard, graduate, work hard, while giving your employer the majority of your time and effort, only to live to work, never having time for yourself or a family, only to be unceremoniously laid off/fired when a cutthroat corporation no longer needs you, WHY would a young person put even more pressure on themselves taking on the responsibility of a wife/family? The young man interviewed makes sense when you look at the state of life for a young person in Asia today, and other developed parts of the world.This is why countries like China, S. Korea Japan, and much of Europe are rapidly aging. The ONLY thing keeping America demographically afloat is immigration.
Cost of raising one child in Australia 🇦🇺 till 18 years is $300,000 based on 2023 prices – as costs of living is currently our biggest issue and going up drastically, if you have 1 child now it may cost you $1,000,000 – this is why Australians have also started to give up on having children – and our marriage rate is also collapsing.
China is ahead of many countries in not having a lot of children, but it is not alone. Declining birth rates are throughout the world. Many young people delay marriage, or avoid it altogether, and more and more don’t want children for many reasons. I don’t blame them. Let’s not forget that no child asks to be born, we force them here.
I want children but Im not ready. Im not financially stable and my existence here in Australia is unsure. If i go back to my home country and have a kid there, Ill be dooming that childs life to poverty. Its not the same but i understand these Chinese men very well. If you are not prepared for the responsibilities, dont doom the child to suffering.
So, one issue in China is even if both people have good jobs and you make plenty of money, or a person starts a business and makes a lot of money (most don’t), you can’t stick your money in the bank, because as has been shown many banks have severely limited the withdrawal of money, probably because they can’t pay their obligations which really means many of these banks would be insolvent in the West because you CAN’T simply deny a person pulling their money. So you can’t trust saving money in the bank, you have to somehow safely store it? Where? You can’t own land and build your own house. Do you buy a unit in one of those big housing towers, a Tofu-dreg? What happens if your building collapses or floods out? Everywhere you turn there is so much risk, and this is why these people are saying this. And THEN you have to worry about the CCP deciding that with the amount of money you make you should be able to hand a chunk of it over to the govt. EVEN THOUGH you already paid tax on what you made because they’ll say you somehow made that money from some corruption and if you don’t hand over some of your money they’ll audit you. Why would a person want to have a family just to bring a child into a no-win situation? The govt. could say the child is an enemy of the state, they get disappeared and organs are harvested from the child. It goes on and on and on and on.
I’ve noticed that other countries in East Asia have similar situations. I remember one person from there mentioning to me how intense their Testing Culture can be in school. And how competitive their job market can be sometimes. He specifically said, “It felt like I didn’t really get to have a childhood.” So, I can understand why they’re setting aside time for themselves. And even if they did have children, both parents have to work. So, if there’s no daycare. It just makes it harder to raise a family.
cost of raising a child in the US WAS stated as half the figure shown here which is still very expensive. With the CCP offering money for 2nd, 3rd, child, combined with poor employment prospects, combined with reduction and hold back of employee pay, including civil servants (teachers, police?), the CCP might be prone to not pay the bonus money promised, but the family will still have to raise the child. Things do not look good
Although it’s not a topic in this article, I have a question for the global readers of this comment:\r Are you also seeing a disappearance of free, external activities? When I was young, we had free and fairly large playgrounds, table tennis tables, tables for chess players, outdoor swings, soccer fields, and park benches with tables. Now it seems like I see less of it every year. It’s that you have to pay for absolutely everything, while even parks are disappearing (or becoming inundated with trash, even though there are trash cans everywhere).
You’d think the first policy change would be to make all healthcare surrounding pregnancy and birth free and possibly free milk/nappies for first year as well as tax breaks. They’d do that if they really wanted to change things that badly. Even paying your house off after 3rd child. Or maybe the citizens are collectively realising how caged they are and have no hope for a future that isn’t worse than the present.
0:20 as a fellow 90s guy I think the reason people don’t want these things anymore is because either the world changed or it never was the way it that way in the first place. Once was when you got married had child’s and got the house etc. you’d expect a certain level of privilege for lack of a better word. That’s no on longer the case. So why waste time on it when you won’t get the things you were told you would get from having them? Instead you can just go after the things you want directly without the burden of others holding you down. There comes a time when the cost of things become so high that either people stop wanting them or even if they do want it they still can’t get it ai why try? You can simply change your goals to something more attainable. The people who want us to aspire to these things have screwed themselves by making them so unattractive. People are far more educated then they used to be even the so called uneducated still know a lot and see how the current system is a scam
Their sentiment seems like a global sentiment whether it’s a capitalist or communist system. It’s very difficult to raise a family. It’s a global phenomenon. Thailand, South a Korea, Japan, US, Euro countries… their population is dwindling. We raised two kids. We got into debt. Nothing was paid cash. Home has mortgage, car is monthly paid. Yeah, we looked middle class but we were in debt. Then there’s the credit cards for daily expenses… That’s the US in the 80s, 90s, and so on. It seems like to by design.
These are very responsible people. Unlike the west, having children out of wedlock, with several different fathers, no education, and no money…. there is little shame, and not much stigma. When you bring children in these situations, they also have little hope in doing better… they also have multiple children with multiple different men.
Same is true in America as well, Middle class people with kids have a very miserable life. The day you lose your job life becomes hell. After slogging for years in college and work this becomes endless cause of stress. My kids already know that they are not having kids anymore as it’s not possible for them to even afford a house and a car right now in California.
The misery comes not from the marriage or the children. It comes from the expectations of the parents, grandparents and society as a whole. “Why dont you have the same things I have when I was your age?” asks the older generation. Times have changed and the possibilities have dried up, but the expectations have not changed.
It’s not just China, but many countries are experiencing a decline in births. With unaffordable housing, uncertain and low wage work, family laws unfavourable to men and the usual difficulties in sustaining a healthy relationship, it is no wonder births are falling. The good news is that fewer sapiens is an ecological blessing for the planet.
Aaron clarey says “dont have kids you cannot afford”. No one should be unironicly surprised that once people observe “i grew up with poor parents…i see others who grew up with money…growing up in a wealthy family looks better….conclusion…dont have kids unless you have money” Sounds logical to me.
Did you know back in the mousey dung days he had people females on one side, male on the other they went down the road and told them you marry him you marry her the people never even knew each other. They were told to make babies for the cause. Now they tried a one child policy and many girls were vanished, so now you have 1mill guys and very few women and the ones that made it all just seem to want money. From grandparents down, they don’t marry for love.
I used to have a boyfriend, he was so obsessed in having a kid and not me that the relationship broke just over that. The guy was such an Ahole. I am glad to see that at least some men are more realistic and don’t want kids in a world that doesn’t have much to offer anymore so why force yourself ? That is pretty stupid. Who cares about the government statistics and needs and wants. The government is selfish.
this world has become a real mmo game, common people are stucked as npc’s with a very limited to no privilege and the people in position the so called players are the ones with all the privelege and some with cheat codes from IGN to play and rig the game however they want, these cheaters somehow will be jealous or bored so they’ll spice the game by raging a war against another player to get whatever loot they want or just bully them cause its fun
Because we live on a graph the very fact everything we do is being discussed and micromanaged by other people who treat us like stock on their farm. we are not endangered we are mismanaged its only an issue for their profit margins. Once this age collapses repopulating will be easy . But they dont care about that they just want to retain this shtshow
Now if the state offered free health, family birth support and after care to nurse the baby and daycare with generous child benefit and tax breaks people might consider it. One wonders what kind of parents would these people become. Now of course the dowry cultural issue is major downside which may nullify what if already mentioned.
well when it takes you until youre in your 30s to start earning enough to live, it isnt hard to imagine why noone is having kids. we need to face the fact that the societies we live in are predatory. we’ve unleashed the rich and powerful to prey on the vulnerable. sometimes, the only way to win a war is to not fight.
I completely agree with these Chinese not wanting marriage or kids. It’s just too much !!! Perhaps if food and housing weren’t so damn expensive, people would be able to start a family !!! I am a black man living in the expensive city of New York. Turning 51 years old in March and I am HAPPY BEING SINGLE !!!
While all of what is said about housing is basically correct, the young man at 19:25 is just being stupid. Mortgages in general, in places like the US, are structured this way. There are two reasons this is not a problem in a normal, market economy. The first is that housing prices are expected to go up over time. The second is that inflation, even at a low rate, will make the money used to pay off the mortgage less valuable than it was at the beginning. The other thing to consider is that without mortgages structured in this way very few people could afford to buy a house in the first place. In addition, without the income generated over the life of the mortgage, the capital it represents would not be made available. The real issue is that the CCP has manipulated the market to keep prices unreasonably high. Interference in markets by governments is always bad. The price to income, both median figures, in the US is generally about five, moving up to seven recently (the current situation is an anomaly). The same ratio in China is now 17. Even at the beginning of this millennium it was ten. So, prices have always been unrealistically high in China. Now, as they seem to be collapsing, the middle class, such as it is, will be wiped out.
On the young man’s comment that a person) no companion or children) is only earning 4,000 to 5,000 yen a month, how in the world would you have a lifestyle of 10,000 to 20,000 yen month (2-4 times) without using major credit debt? 3 million seems to be on the low side for a single child considering parents are paying for compulsory things like lower grade schooling, forget any after school activities ( sports or academia) or chilcare. CCP is more concerned with the workforce commodity in the atrempt to ‘make up’ for the 1 child period despite the worldwide natural birth rate cycling.
I’m an older Aussie. I’ve NEVER wanted to get married. And I don’t live in CCP China. Young people in CCP China are waking up to their brutal financial reality. And the issue for the CCP is even if people have babies TOMORROW, the new people won’t be productive for TWENTY years. The CCP faces 30 years of decline. MINIMUM. The word is pronounced: bee – trOth – al. Your narrator REALLY needs lessons in ENGLISH! 😲 M 🦘🏏😎
Having kids was the best decision i ever made in my life. And i would rather keep my children than my career if given the choice. Having children has a good chance of changing you as a person and bringing meaning to your life. People are free to not have kids if they want, of course, but it is impossible to know if you will love it or not before you attempt it. Also most of the things my kids loved to play with are basically. free… Plastic bottles, getting tickles, tossed into the air. Just because you dont have a lot of money doesnt mean your children wont be happy. Kids care more about love and attention than money. People only get wrong-headed like that when they get closer to adulthood.
As a man you shouldnt really have a kid in your 20s its financially suicidal, you can still marry and have a kid normaly in your 30s-40s. For women the sooner the better, its economically and financially better to have a kid and marry in 20s. It will be significantly hard for women to get a partner past 30yrs old.
In a way this is the tragedy of all Western countries: until 1960 families could live on one income. When women started to work and families got higher incomes totally, all prices were adjusted accordingly. The result was that you now needed two incomes to live a normal family life. Now, with new inflation, that is no longer enough: most of the population can not survive on its income. Result: no families, no children. The elite is literally blackmailing the society to elimination.
This has started even in Indian metros basically its a correction. The population has exploded too much and the actual recourses per capita has dwindled. You can print all the money but resources are fixed nature can give you a lot but there is a limit. This is a natural correction to population explosion and rapid urbanization.
It’s becoming impossible for anyone in a first or second world economy. All the laws are weighted against the man and society has erected many support systems around women and children, rightfully so in there intentions. However the needle has swung to far to favour one side, even so the results are a car crash for everyone involved. Stay single, Stay safe. 😮
I think most people will change their minds about marriage and children by the time they get to their late 20’s and early 30’s. I hear a lot of despair and a sense of hopelessness. When you have no job and no stable income, you lose hope for the future Especially when you don’t meet the expectations of the society you live in. This is going on all over the world, not just Asian countries.
They are awakened. Life is hard. However, if they find a great partner, and they click, they, can rely on each and navigate life together. They have to be great partners, really loyal to each other. They must really care for each other. We are 8 siblings in the family, 4 didn’t have kids, the other 4 had kids. We all love our lifestyles. They enjoy our nephews and nieces, and love their lifestyles.
The only prpblem with this is that we need younger people to look after us in our old age. No matter how healthy you are, sometimes your mind just goes and u find it difficult to do basic tasks. I see this now with my parents and it is sad but maybe it does not matter. Maybe better to die than be a dependant in your old age..
i somehow think that the money issue is slightly blown out of proportion. People were poor earlier – they still had several children. im in my 40s here in India – happily unmarried – and the primary feeling i remember having even in my 20s was that of overwhelming exhaustion even at the thought of marriage and children. India and China are rather similar in societal structure which is primarily patriarchal, and just overbearing and high expectation parenthood. i just wanted to be free – and im really glad i did not succumb to family pressures of getting married. Ive never even missed having a husband or children, and there are many like me – kinda sad i guess for the future of the country and all but well…
As a Chinese American, I actually mostly blame my parents and my upbringing for misguiding me in marriage. They wanted me to be a big career woman and a doctor sooooooooooo badly, and when that wasn’t accomplished, and something else was instead, I felt like a failure. You also have to work hard until you’re 30 at least to be a doctor, so no dating until then. And I would have to get the perfect guy right away to even marry and have children and not miss the window. This made me miserable from the time I was a pre-teen, just thinking about it. It set me up for failure in both becoming a doctor, and marriage. So basically, I didn’t know better, and my parents sabotaged me with their misguided good intentions. I just told them I am the last generation. They are partly responsible, and they will just have to be okay with not having grandkids and their genes dying out. Bad upbringing has consequences.
If CCP(cut copy paste) wants babies, then why don’t rich and upper middle class have more babies as they need. Why should they burden lower middle class and middle class to have more babies than they afford. Its the problem of rich people and not the lower strata of society. 🤙 If they need babies, then give birth to your own babies. Why to expect others to give birth babies for your problem 🤔 Font give us baits. We know very well what you have on your heart and mind. So we won’t fall for what you say. We know that you have invested much money and now you fear that your investment will get doomed if everything dont go according to your plans. If lower strata people will not have more babies, then they will not live the life of miseries but that miserable life has to be lived by the rich and upprr middle class people and ultimately the ultra rich people. 😂🤣 Thry will fall into their own trap which they made for us and we don’t have anythin to loose 🤙😆😅😄 those who have, its their problem.
The issue is not children but when leaders have a lack of leadership and management of resources, look at the high prices, costs of living etc. It seems that China was trying to compete with Europe and its been failing them, and everyone when Europe have been scamming its own citizens and China did the same In Secret, people are blaming the children when its not the children its the economy they traded a strong economy for money, costs of living, mental health and the one child legacy, and chose men due thinking men were better losing value in girls and women, over working their men then place way too much value to uphold in their men, to have a strong economy people need to be able to survive in that economy by economic finances, which they failed at, what’s good of building something wasting resources u can’t use and won’t benift u, or ur people
In the us its on the rise This is the reason I will never get a relationship nor kids. Why would I bring life to a country thats going downhill, a place where if you study for a career you never be there you just have to be a serfdom ( retail, construction, plumber, electrician ) while other jobs like ( animators, big tec, movie directors) are seen as unrealistic unless your apart of the 1%
The 996 work schedule is greatly disadvantageous. To work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week… One does hope there are some breaks in there for eating. But it’s not a life. You come home, eat a late dinner and go to sleep. You ‘live’ just one day per week and hopefully there’s something enjoyable in those. If not too exhausted. It would greatly help young people to get a social life, if even a 976 work schedule was embraced. It’s still very much work, but at least the young would have part of the evening to see friends and enjoy life. I fully understand you don’t want to bring a child into such harsh circumstances, if you can avoid it.
This may sound morbid, but I’m curious to hear about the statistics for suicide, and the statistics for funerals. If this generation is known as the ‘Last Generation’, does the government do anything to support funeral/burials? And what is done for bodies which unfortunately are never collected (or cannot afford a burial)? Do any of these lost souls get any dignity and respect when they leave this earth? 😢🕊